MISS REBECCA CARSON, Sworn In For The State, 60th To Testify

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MISS REBECCA CARSON, sworn for the Defendant.

I work at the National Pencil Co. I have been there over three years.

I work on the fourth floor. I am forelady of the sorting department. I

have from thirteen to fifteen girls under me. At times I have heard the

elevator running when the machinery in the factory was not running. It

makes a noticeable noise. You can notice the vibration of the building

and you can notice the ropes of the elevator running, and you can hear

the cables of the elevator knocking. On Friday, April 25th, I got my pay

about 5:30 from the office. On April 26th I saw Mr. Frank looking at the

parade in front of Rich's between 2:20 and 2:25. He spoke to me. I saw

him again at ten minutes to three going into Jacobs' Pharmacy at the

corner of Whitehall and Alabama Street. I looked at the clock at that

time. On Monday morning I said to Jim Conley, "Where were you on

Saturday? Were you in the factory?" He said, "I was so drunk I don't

know where I was or what I did. " And Snowball, who was standing

there, said, "I can prove where I was. I also overheard a conversation

that he had with my mother when he said Mr. Frank was just as innocent

as an angel; and when my mother said "The murderer will be the negro,

Mrs. White saw sitting on a box at the foot of the stairs," Jim dropped

his broom quick and didn't finish sweeping.

CROSS EXAMINATION.

He made that remark to me about 8 o'clock Monday morning and I

went right back and told my mother of it. The elevator makes enough

noise to know it is running. You don't notice it when the machinery is

running. You wouldn't know whether it was running or not unless your

attention is directed to it. I had looked at the clock five minutes before I

saw Mr. Frank in front of Rich's. I had just looked at the clock also before

I saw him going into Jacobs'. I am certain of the times I saw him.

That was the exact time by the clock. I get $10. 00 a week. Last time my

salary was raised it was raised in January. There has been no raise

since then. I had heard that some of the sweepers sometimes stay on

Saturday afternoons to sweep. I didn't know it. I just asked him if he

was there at the factory Saturday afternoon. He never before admitted

being drunk to me before. Nobody suspected Jim of the murder at that

time. I told my mother of it because I tell her everything. I told Mr.

Darley about it. I don't remember when I told him. It was before Conley

was arrested on Thursday. I told Mr. Rosser when he was at the

factory. That was after Jim was arrested. I did not see the red spot in

the metal room on Monday. I didn't go in the metal room until Tuesday.

I didn't see it then because I wasn't looking at the floor.